James Marion Sims, the "father" of gynecology, walked a horrific path towards medical innovation that involved inhumane and perverse experiments conducted on enslaved women in the 19th century

His legacy, founded on the dehumanization of Black women and the dismissal of their pain, is now being reckoned with. Yet, oddly enough, some of those same attitudes towards Black women that permeated medicine during slavery are still pervasive among healthcare professionals today. Prof. Deirdre Cooper Owens joins host Dr. Mark Anthony Neal to discuss present-day Black maternal health and her book, "Medical Bondage: Race, Gender, and the Origins of American Gynecology," published by the University of Georgia Press.