What does it look like to not only survive, but to thrive, in a society that surrounds you and your community with hostility and detriment?

For many, this is the most relevant burning question right now as we are seeing a seismic shift in the way the United States does business at home and abroad. But this same quandary was ever-present in the midst of the Civil Right Era. The titanic figure of Rev. Albert Cleage Jr. stood tall in the city of Detroit with his founding of the Shrine of the Black Madonna, which combined Afrocentric Christian practice with radical social ideas to change the self-perception of its congregants. Celebrated author Aaron Robertson joins host Dr. Mark Anthony Neal to discuss his much lauded new book, "The Black Utopians: Searching for Paradise and the Promised Land in America," published by Farrar, Straus and Giroux.